> Bruce Pettycrew wrote:
>> I was watching one of the cable networks this afternoon
>> when an ad for Book One ( _Dianetics_ ) was shown.
>> I called the 1-800 number and asked the operator
>> (who answered "Dianetics" in dull sleepy voice) if the
>> practice of Dianetics was congruent with Christian
>> teachings. She answered that Dianetics was non-denominational
>> and could be used by any religion.
Several groups of people here have met with RC and Presbyterian church leaders and both state categorically that $cientology is NOT compatible with their respective religion. They were both appalled by the teachings of Hubbard.

http://home.kvalito.no/~xenu/archive/media_vault/Nochrist.ra

"Anyway, Everyman is then shown to have been crucified so don't think that it's an accident that this crucifixion, they found out that this applied. Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6, and I don't know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity. The man on the Cross.

There was no Christ. But the man on the cross is shown as Everyman. So of course each person seeing a crucified man, has an immediate feeling of sympathy for this man. Therefore you get many PCs who says they are Christ. Now, there's two reasons for that, one is the Roman Empire was prone to crucify people, so a person can have been crucified, but in R6 he is shown as crucified." - L. Ron Hubbard

>> I then asked her if it
>> was not true that Hubbard taught that Christianity was a
>> result of R6 programming observed in madmen? There was
>> a few moments of silence on the line and she came back with
>> "HOLD ON.. WE ARE TRACING THE CALL"... AND THEN HUNG UP!!!
>> Huck, Huck, Huck, Huck, whew!!
> So you called an 800 number and harassed some nice girl
> trying to do her job and take some orders.
"Some nice girl" made an implied threat. It is well documented and proven that $cientologists will personally harass anyone who criticizes them. One can hear the following at every picket: "We know who you are." "We know where you live." "We know where you work."

This harassment policy is one of the well known tools that OSA uses to silence critics. "Fair Game"(TM) is still in effect. How many critics have had false information fed to their employers and neighbors in an attempt by the Co$ to harass them? How many have had their place of residence picketed? This still goes on at this very moment.

> Nice. Your doing this served no purpose other than to harass
> and humiliate.
Asking any questions about $cientology's true beliefs is construed by your cherch as "harassment". Where do you get "humiliate" from? Because the true answer IS humiliating?

The truth about Hubbard's words makes a mockery and lie of this "nice girl's" statement that $cientology is compatible with other religions.

> So much for thomlove's and others' assertion that most
> critics only want to investigate wrongdoing and so forth.
Not telling the truth about $cientology up front, IS one of the main wrong doings of the Co$ that is being criticized in this news group.

> This sort of malice and harassment as recounted on ars isn't
> rare.
Look to your front group, the CCHR, if you want to see good examples of malice and harassment.

>> Each of us are individual people, even if we're criticizing
>> the same things. Some of us agree with each other, some of us
>> don't. Even among critics, we don't always agree with each
>> other. However that's life. All of us have different
>> temperaments and traits, and different means of resolving a
>> situation or speaking.
> This is quite true, and I am ever mindful of this. I've had a great
> many interesting exchanges with critics in this forum, and am quite
> aware that they are not all the same. That's one of the things which
> makes a.r.s. neat.
>
> However, the meanspiritedness evidenced by the original post in this
> thread is, unfortunately, not anywhere near as rare as it ought to be on
> a.r.s.
The $cientologists that stand in the front lines have to expect to take the brunt of the criticism of your cherch.

Hubbard's "Space Opera"(TM) religion, with it's outlandish promises of medical cures and personal "power" over the physical universe (which have not materialized in 50 years) leaves the cherch open to ridicule.

> So, sure, it's not everybody on this forum. But it's not
> rare, and it's deplorable. And it doesn't get anybody anywhere.
If you want to find REAL examples of mean spiritedness, look within your cherch itself. How many people, who have exposed the cherch for it's lies and deceptions, have been damaged willfully by the Co$? How much money and resources have been poured into an effort to "Ruin Them Utterly"(TM)?

> C
BTW, Miss Piggy, froggies know enough not to go skiing with clams so there is no chance they'll go "splat". They are much wiser than clams. They can see and talk and sing and dance. They even turn into a prince when you kiss them. Of course, if they don't turn into a prince, it's not because the story isn't true. It just means you are not a princess.

Kermit

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