Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: IT'S AN HARD UNIVERSE
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:47:13 -0800
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Faithful Reader,

I received this sad note today:

> Our Italian Staff:
>
> > HI DENNIS
>
>     Hi.
>
> >     I don't write you any less.  I wrote yesterday.  Is someone
> >     intercepting your e-mail?
>        HAVE YOU FEAR?
>     TR3:  Is someone intercepting your e-mail?
>
> >     What do you think is the 8th dynamic?  Do you believe in God?
> >     Do you pray?  Are you Christian?
> >     I THink is a dinamic important, but i belive in some god,
>
>     "Some" god.  Like a golden calf?

    [no response to my probes]

> >      but i'm so far...from him.
>
>     I don't understand how that can be if God is everywhere.
>     Please explain.  Is your god part of MEST?  He must be if
>     he's far from you.
>
> >      So i think i am my god in my universe
>
>     Satan thought the same.  You are in good company.
>     NO....you tought the same.....are you Satanist?

    I believe we are witnessing disintigration of a personality.
    Soon to be a Woody.  He was not trolling me.  He just got 
    told who I am.  It's so sad, don't you think?

> >      and i am own cause in all the things right and
> >      wrong that i do!!
>
>     Not if someone's tricking or deceiving your.  Perhaps you are
>     under hypnosis and don't know about it.
>     This is an your indication.....flunk
                 
    I was just asking if it was possible.  I get a flunk.  That's
    the worst there is to the scienos.  It's kinda like
    "bad dog!".

> >      Don't pray.Yes i am Cristian for my parents..
>
>     You mean you lie to your parents and tell them you are
>     Christian but really believe *you* are a god like scientology
>     says?
>     WITHOLD OF OTHER PERSONS
>      AND YOUR SAME?
             
    The poor lad is struggling to apply tek to me.  If I ask him 
    if he is deceiving his parents into believing he is Christian
    and an scieno, he accuses me of having the same withhold 
    myself.  That's what the tek says.

> >     I go to the library and read many subjects to do the same
> >     thing.
> >     Have you read THE HISTORY OF THE MAN?
>
>     Yes, I am OT.
>
> >     Totally.  You should do what you are happy doing and not what
> >     other people expect or tell you to do.  The C-org is a very
> >     rough life.  You may get locked in a basement like I did.
> >     You may have to clean toilets like I did.  You may not be
> >     permitted to talk to or write to your friends or family.  You
> >     must be prepared for giving up your freedom and your rights
> >     to go into the c-org.

>        LIE...LIE...LIE
 
    Sorry, true.

> >     Is that what you want?
>
> >     NO
>
>     Then I suggest you don't join the c-org.  Everybody will get
>     to order you around in the c-org.  You have to do what they
>     say or they'll take away your thetan.  They can do it, too.

>     Have simpaty for you Dennis::::
           
    I don't think so.  I have been through the things I described.

> > >In my case i hope to buy soon 150 hours more of auditing for to get
> > >ride my reactive mind,
> >
> >     What makes you believe you even have a reactive mind?
> >     Sometimes my doingness is reactive...my case...and by pass charge...
>
>     You don't like being human?  Perhaps you'd like to be rid of
>     all your emotions?  Make sure you don't think anything but
>     approved thoughts?  Do everything just as Ron would?
      
>     OUT TECH

> > >What do you do in your life?
> >     I am OT.
> >  And more?
>     Much, much more.
>     MORE MORE MORE....WATH?
 
    Much, much more everything!

> > >Do you work?
> >
> >     Always.
> >     Where?
>
>     In Glendale California USA.
>
> > >How old are you?
> >
> >     48.
> > I am 26
>
>     You have a lot to learn, young man.  I hope you don't get
>     hurt finding out.
>     YOU ARE 1.1. DENNIS      
      
    Uh-uh.  I'm not at all hostile to you.  I rather liked you 
    until you started getting insulting.  Now it is obvious to me
    that you have been 3rd Partied on me.  Do you know the Data 
    Series?  Maybe we can find the Why.  Or even a Who (or 2).

> > >OK, GOODBYE and tell me more about the bridge,OT LEVELS...TELL ME MORE!!
> >
> >     What would you like to know?  How to get rid of the body
> >     thetans which make up your reactive mind.
> >      YES...tell me more
> >  How to exorcize
> >     them.YES....
> >  What to ask them? Yes...
> >  please...use a correct gradient for me....
>     VERBAL TECH YOUR CONDITION IS ENEMY                     
      
    Uh-uh.  My condition is Scoffingness.  With perhaps a bit 
    of Tauntingness thrown in for good measure.

>     Yes, I'll be gentle, but not today.  Think about the other
>     things I have said.  I am concerned for you.
>
> >   Good buddy?..Ok, i like it!!
>
>     Me too.  Be well, my friend.
>     No Dennis, no friend, your indication are out tech and
>      more.....verbal tech and more....wich are your purpose?
       
    To help you know about the group you are becoming so 
    fanatical about.
    
    If you don't want to chat anymore, I certainly understand.  
    But I wanted to finish our discussion about you being "god". 
    I find this concept really fascinating.

    Can't we continue our discussion?  I'd like that.  Perhaps 
    you wouldn't mind if I revealed your identity to the readers 
    of ars.  Please?  I've gotten lots of nice notes about our 
    chats.

               [not e-mailed, only posted to ars]

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           Rev. Dennis L Erlich  * * the inFormer * *
      dennis.l.erlich@support.com  +  inForm@primenet.com
                           "tar baby"